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Do we need multiple video formats?

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  1. I have been doing a lot of thinking lately.....now that you can play a mp4 video inside of the latest version of the flash player.....do we really need to make and upload multiple video formats?

    I have been thinking of dropping the Vpip plugins and just going with Blip.tv's showplayer. With the crossposting ability and the functionality I am just not sure what the purpose of having multiple feeds or video formats provides anymore.

    I am curious as to what others thoughts are....

    Posted 1 year ago #
  2. I guess it's personal preference, when i view a video on someone's blog, if there's an option to watch in the quicktime player, i would opt for watching that over watching quicktime through a flash. On my new portfolio site ( http://krystianmorgan.com ) i'm not using flash players at all, but i am still going to have the option to view them in the blip player on my main blog ( http://kmogvideo.net ).

    I have three formats on my blog, flash, good quality quicktime and ipod .mp4 i would like to put the two quicktime feed in iTunes etc... (for the people who would want to go straight on their iPod without converting, but there's smething wrong with my vPiP plugin as the separate feeds option doesn't work for me, it returns an error page rather that a feed.

    Ha i don't think that was very helpful but it's just my two cents, if i was to get rid of any format on my blog it would be flash as i like my quicktime's encoded in Ryanne's Freevlog.org tutorial, i think the QT player is alot nicer on the eyes and less distracting.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  3. I'm done with multiple formats. Now I just make one .mp4 somewhere between 600 - 900kbps (ipod/iphone compatible) and use vPIP and the JW flash player. By default you get the mp4 in the flash player or you can click the quicktime link and get it embeded with the quicktime plugin.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  4. For Heath and anyone else considering going with one format and just embedding a Blip.tv show player, Blip.tv just added iPhone compatibility - meaning iPhones can play the video embedded on your page even though it's in a Flash player. I think that makes the embed player an even stronger option unless you don't really care what happens when people browse your site on an iPhone.

    Justin Day from Blip made this tutorial on how to include iPhone compatibility with your embedded show player: http://mashable.com/2008/11/24/bliptv-iphone-compatible/

    (I'd embed it but our forum won't allow the embed code)

    Posted 1 year ago #
  5. Hi Cheryl and others,

    I have started messing around with QuickTime reference movies and a tweaked version of the Blipit plugin from Brave New Code (note i'm talking about a WP plugin, not the new functionality at Blip.tv that I have just learned about via you!).

    The Blipit plugin removes the Blip player and replaces it with a QuickTime player when your site is viewed on an iPhone. That's assuming you have uploaded a compatible video to Blip.

    My reference movie is a .mov file and has a 1.5mbps version of the episode flattened into it as the default. But depending on the viewer's bandwidth, QuickTime will download an 800k or 450k version instead - I upload these files to Blip as well, and the reference movie (created with Apple's MakeRefMovie) contains their URLs.

    So, desktop viewers of my vids get the Flash version. iTunes downloaders or anyone else who downloads the show rather than streaming it will get the full-fat 1.5mbps version (I make that a .mov file so I can include a hyperlink at the end to entice them to my blog, which works a treat).

    iPhone viewers will get the full-fat version, or the 800k version, or the 450k version depending on their bandwidth (I tested a 90k version as well but it looked really awful so I dropped it).

    I am trying to find out more about the new functionality at Blip - mainly whether it only works with .m4v files. I don't like using the m4v file extension - it is just too proprietary and it's unnecessary for it even to exist in my book.

    My approach may seem quirky and control-freaky, but at this stage I would rather keep the functionality at my end (ie Wordpress). If Blip goes down the tubes (heaven forbid - I love those guys) I can move my videos somewhere else without losing the ability to send people either a Flash or h.264 version depending on their platform/connection speed.

    As to Verdi's point: I am still offering .wmv videos as well as Flash and h.264 at Crash Test Kitchen. I would dearly love to axe the .wmv vids but people keep downloading them! Aargh!

    Posted 1 year ago #
  6. I do like what blip is doing and to be honest there are some wiggy things with Vpip, the related posts, etc. I know Charles just put out a call to get some things fixed, which is great...and I just created a test vlog site to try out new things....I guess for me, what all this boils down to is that for me....I stress for me....that I want my vlog to be a bit more than it is. It's still to "bloggy" I want it to be more video centric.

    The problem is....you know what I should just create a new post for that.. ;)

    Blip has been doing a lot of great things and I am thinking hard about just using them and their player..

    Posted 1 year ago #
  7. The main thing that's kept me with Vpip at garagenight.tv has been the ability to put recent posts in the blog sidebar as a thumbnail. Once I find a WP plugin to give me that functionality alone, I think I'll be dropping Vpip and switching to the Blip player.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  8. There are a few video centric themes out there but most of them cost money....I'm not opposed to paying but I was hoping not too.....some of those themes have thumbnail posts, etc......I've just been doing a lot of thinking lately and need to figure all this out...

    Posted 1 year ago #
  9. Noticed that Linux Foundation videos displayed in proprietary Flash with less noticeable OGG download link. Ideology only goes so far.

    http://video.linuxfoundation.org/
    http://video.linuxfoundation.org/video/1045

    Posted 1 year ago #
  10. An update to the above: I have aborted using QuickTime reference movies. They behave unpredictably when you download them before playing. Sometimes QT will play the default video that you've encapsulated into the ref movie, other times it will try to download one of the lower-bandwidth movies that the ref movie links to.

    Reference movies seem like an ultra-brilliant idea, and Apple promotes them through its 'Export for web' setting in QT Pro, but in reality I don't think ref movies are great for videobloggers/podcasters because things go wrong when you download them (eg via iTunes) rather than streaming them/playing in a browser. Also there is very little info about how to use them - eg there are settings in Apple MakeRefMovie that are not explained anywhere I could find.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  11. If you use the Blip player without vPIP, how do you provide an Archive? Is there a way for your viewers to check out your older videos that is as good as the vPIP Archive?

    Posted 1 year ago #
  12. Steve,

    vPIP doesn't have an archive. The two ways most of us have been archiving is either with our blog's native archive (which is just a crummy listing of posts by month or by category), or with the VideoPress Video Archive plugin that Charles made. That's the one that gives the nice little thumbnails and summaries. It's never been perfect but it's better than WordPress by itself. But it's not vPIP, it just works with vPIP.

    If you have a Blip.tv account, log in and go to Distribution > Show Players. On the dropdown next to Working On choose New Player. Then go through all the tabs and play with the different ways you can set up a show player. Under the General tab, you can set up a player that plays all your episodes in chronological order, or customize it a bunch of different ways. It's actually very cool. You could embed a chronological Blip show player on a page on your site and call that your archive.

    One problem with doing that would be that the individual video links would not take users to the post permalink so they could comment on a video. Otherwise I'd do that.

    I've been trying to see if I can get the JWPlayer and the Podcasting plugin to do something similar for me using my main RSS feed, but so far no luck, for many reasons.

    There are a lot of people trying to figure it out though.

    I gotta say, in regard to Heath's comment on wanting more video-centricness in his blog theme, if you're willing to pay Charles to work on his plugins, is paying $50 - $75 for a really nice video-centric theme all that different? I understand not wanting to shell out money for a theme. I truly do. But some of the video themes out there are pretty reasonable in cost. Though I probably wouldn't pay for one myself without feeling pretty confident I'd be able to customize it a bit, or get help from the theme designer in doing so.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  13. That's a good point Cheryl and it's something I have been thinking about...part of the issue I guess is that most of the video centric themes that are out there are using custom fields and I am not sure how well Vpip would work with the custom fields....and if it doesn't and given what Enric has said about updating vpip, etc....I am just not sure....I mean I do struggle with all this, I know people are donating their time and effort, for mostly no return so what right do I have to complain, you know?

    But then again, I want things to work and I would be willing to help pay, but I can't afford $$$$, I maybe could afford $$...I don't know....I do know that for me, I feel like I need to start helping people out with either some cash or maybe some quid pro quo......or I need to win the lottery.....

    This post probably makes no sense...

    Posted 1 year ago #
  14. We have no faint clue what you are talking about besides that it is related to FFmpeg. .... Similarly, the yuv4mpegpipe format, and the raw video, raw audio codecs also ... When using multiple yuv4mpegpipe(s), the first line needs to be ... FFmpeg is already organized in a highly modular manner and does not need to

    Posted 3 months ago #

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